>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI &>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI & RUHLE.” RUHLE.” I AM HERE AT THE BEAUTIFUL I AM HERE AT THE BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS OF GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY. CAMPUS OF GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY. I SPOKE TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG I SPOKE TO MAYOR PETE BUTTIGIEG AFTER HIS TIME WITH ME ON STAGE AFTER HIS TIME WITH ME ON STAGE TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S TALKING ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S COMMENT ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMENT ON THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHISTLE BLOWER. COMMUNITY WHISTLE BLOWER. HERE IS WHAT HE TELLS ME. HERE IS WHAT HE TELLS ME.>>EXTREMELY DISTURBING.>>EXTREMELY DISTURBING. THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IS WHAT THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION IS WHAT DON’T THEY WANT CONGRESS TO FIND DON’T THEY WANT CONGRESS TO FIND OUT. OUT. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE INTELLIGENCE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WITH THE APPROPRIATE CLEARANCES WITH THE APPROPRIATE CLEARANCES WHOSE VERY JOB IS TO OVERSEE WHOSE VERY JOB IS TO OVERSEE INTELLIGENCE ISSUES. INTELLIGENCE ISSUES. THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH AN THEY HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH AN INTELLIGENCE CONCERN AND THE INTELLIGENCE CONCERN AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS COVERING IT UP OR WHITE HOUSE IS COVERING IT UP OR REFUSING ALLOW US TO SEE IT. REFUSING ALLOW US TO SEE IT. IT RAISES SO MANY QUESTIONS IT RAISES SO MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING AND WHAT THEY’RE TRYING TO HIDE AND WHY. THEY’RE TRYING TO HIDE AND WHY.>>THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT>>THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT NEW SANCTIONS ON IRAN’S NATIONAL NEW SANCTIONS ON IRAN’S NATIONAL BANK. BANK. HE TALKED THE OTHER DAY OF HE TALKED THE OTHER DAY OF IMPOSING FAR MORE SANCTIONS IN IMPOSING FAR MORE SANCTIONS IN IRAN AS THINGS GETTING HOTTER OF IRAN AS THINGS GETTING HOTTER OF SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN AND THE SAUDI ARABIA AND IRAN AND THE UNITED NATION AND THE UNITED UNITED NATION AND THE UNITED STATES, WE ARE HEADING INTO THE STATES, WE ARE HEADING INTO THE U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY. U.N. GENERAL ASSEMBLY. WHAT’S YOUR SENSE? WHAT’S YOUR SENSE? YOU ARE HYPER-CONSCIOUS OF YOU ARE HYPER-CONSCIOUS OF GETTING OURSELVES INADVERTEDLY GETTING OURSELVES INADVERTEDLY INTO WAR. INTO WAR. WHAT’S YOUR SENSE OF HOW THIS WHAT’S YOUR SENSE OF HOW THIS SHOULD GO? SHOULD GO?>>WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THE>>WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS THE ESCALATION, IT WON’T BE EASY. ESCALATION, IT WON’T BE EASY. WE CREATED A SITUATION THAT’S WE CREATED A SITUATION THAT’S MORE UNSTABLE. MORE UNSTABLE. WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE PULLS OUT WHEN THE WHITE HOUSE PULLS OUT THE NUCLEAR ORDEAL. THE NUCLEAR ORDEAL. NOW THE PRESIDENT PUTS HIMSELF NOW THE PRESIDENT PUTS HIMSELF IN THAT SITUATION. IN THAT SITUATION. IT APPEARS TO BE THAT HIS IT APPEARS TO BE THAT HIS INSTINCTS IS NOT TOWARDS INSTINCTS IS NOT TOWARDS CONFRONTATIONAL WAR. CONFRONTATIONAL WAR.>>IT DOES SEEM TO BE THAT WAY.>>IT DOES SEEM TO BE THAT WAY.>>JOHN BOLTON SEEMS TO GO>>JOHN BOLTON SEEMS TO GO TOWARDS THAT AND THE PRESIDENT TOWARDS THAT AND THE PRESIDENT REPULSED THAT. REPULSED THAT.>>THE REAL CONCERN IS COULD>>THE REAL CONCERN IS COULD THERE BE IN THIS STEP THAT GETS THERE BE IN THIS STEP THAT GETS THE FULL THING OUT OF HIS THE FULL THING OUT OF HIS CONTROL. CONTROL. THE PRESIDENT SEEMS DEEPLY THE PRESIDENT SEEMS DEEPLY CONFUSED AND HIS STRATEGY. CONFUSED AND HIS STRATEGY. HE DENIED IT WAS EVER ON THE HE DENIED IT WAS EVER ON THE TABLE. TABLE. HE WENT SO FAR AS TAXES AND HE WENT SO FAR AS TAXES AND CHANGING HIS MIND THE LAST CHANGING HIS MIND THE LAST MINUTE. MINUTE. THIS IS THE LAST PLACE IN THE THIS IS THE LAST PLACE IN THE WORLD WHERE YOU CAN GO AROUND WORLD WHERE YOU CAN GO AROUND AND NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING. AND NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.>>Reporter: YOU KNOW IF THERE>>Reporter: YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A WAR THAT INVOLVED IRAN AND IS A WAR THAT INVOLVED IRAN AND THE UNITED STATES, OBVIOUSLY THE THE UNITED STATES, OBVIOUSLY THE UNITED STATES WILL PREVAIL. UNITED STATES WILL PREVAIL. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SYMMETRICAL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SYMMETRICAL WAR NOW. WAR NOW.>>WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IT>>WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IT IS GOING TO LEAD TO TREMENDOUS IS GOING TO LEAD TO TREMENDOUS DESTRUCTION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DESTRUCTION ON BOTH SIDES OF THE GULF. GULF. YOU WILL SEE HARM TO IRAN AND YOU WILL SEE HARM TO IRAN AND WHATEVER IT REACHES TO THE U.S. WHATEVER IT REACHES TO THE U.S. DIRECTLY. DIRECTLY. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO SEE YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO SEE ENORMOUS DESTRUCTION AND CAUSING ENORMOUS DESTRUCTION AND CAUSING HUMAN LIFE. HUMAN LIFE. NOBODY WINS IN THIS WAR. NOBODY WINS IN THIS WAR. NOBODY WINS. NOBODY WINS. SO WE GOT AN OBLIGATION, PERHAPS SO WE GOT AN OBLIGATION, PERHAPS THE DECISIVE POWER OPERATING THE DECISIVE POWER OPERATING WITH RESPECT TO THAT REGION TO WITH RESPECT TO THAT REGION TO MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT HAPPEN. MAKE SURE IT DOES NOT HAPPEN.>>WITH RESPECT TO WAR THAT>>WITH RESPECT TO WAR THAT NOBODY WINS AND ONE MAY APPLY NOBODY WINS AND ONE MAY APPLY THAT LOGIC TO THE TRADE WAR. THAT LOGIC TO THE TRADE WAR. THEIR ECONOMY IS WEAKENING AND THEIR ECONOMY IS WEAKENING AND OUR ECONOMY IS WEAKEN. OUR ECONOMY IS WEAKEN. WE ARE ALL SLOWING DOWN AND WE ARE ALL SLOWING DOWN AND THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE SOME THERE DOES NOT SEEM TO BE SOME CLEAR OUTCOME THAT WOULD BE A CLEAR OUTCOME THAT WOULD BE A MEASURABLE SUCCESS. MEASURABLE SUCCESS.>>WELL, THERE IS NO STRATEGY.>>WELL, THERE IS NO STRATEGY. I AM IN MY WAYS HAWKISH IN CHINA I AM IN MY WAYS HAWKISH IN CHINA THAN OTHERS IN MY PARTY. THAN OTHERS IN MY PARTY. THEY PRESENT A MAJOR COMPETITIVE THEY PRESENT A MAJOR COMPETITIVE IN SECURITY AND ECONOMIC IN SECURITY AND ECONOMIC PERSPECTIVE. PERSPECTIVE.>>Reporter: WE HAVE THE –>>Reporter: WE HAVE THE –>>WE NEED TO BE PARTNERING WITH>>WE NEED TO BE PARTNERING WITH INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO MAKE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE INTERNATIONAL NORMS ARE SURE INTERNATIONAL NORMS ARE RESPECTED AND THAT’S EVERYTHING RESPECTED AND THAT’S EVERYTHING OF OUR SUPPORT OF DEMOCRATIC OF OUR SUPPORT OF DEMOCRATIC ASPIRATIONS IN HONG KONG OR ASPIRATIONS IN HONG KONG OR WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE WHAT’S GOING ON WITH THE ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND WHAT’S ECONOMIC ACTIVITY AND WHAT’S HAPPENING IN THEIR USE OF HAPPENING IN THEIR USE OF TECHNOLOGY AND THIS IS A WHOLE TECHNOLOGY AND THIS IS A WHOLE SET OF CONCERNS THAT REQUIRES A SET OF CONCERNS THAT REQUIRES A CLEAR EYE LONG-TERM STRATEGIC CLEAR EYE LONG-TERM STRATEGIC OUTLOOK. OUTLOOK. WE HAVE A PATTERN OF POLKKING IN WE HAVE A PATTERN OF POLKKING IN THE EYES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THE EYES TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.>>Reporter: LET’S TALK ABOUT>>Reporter: LET’S TALK ABOUT YOUR PLAN FOR MEDICARE OR FOR YOUR PLAN FOR MEDICARE OR FOR HEALTHCARE REFORM IN AMERICA. HEALTHCARE REFORM IN AMERICA. YOU SUGGESTED SOMETHING CALLED YOU SUGGESTED SOMETHING CALLED MEDICARE FOR ALL. MEDICARE FOR ALL. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WHAT DOES IT MEAN?>>IT MEANS WE CREATE AMED>>IT MEANS WE CREATE AMED A MEDICARE-LIKE PUBLIC A MEDICARE-LIKE PUBLIC ALTERNATIVE. ALTERNATIVE. THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS ARE THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS ARE LOOKING FOR. LOOKING FOR. HEALTHCARE LOBBY CAME OUT HEALTHCARE LOBBY CAME OUT ATTACKING MY PLAN BECAUSE THEY ATTACKING MY PLAN BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO FACE THAT KIND OF DON’T WANT TO FACE THAT KIND OF COMPETITION. COMPETITION. THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DELIVER THAT WITHOUT JUST SAYING DELIVER THAT WITHOUT JUST SAYING WE CAN THROW A SWITCH AND KICK WE CAN THROW A SWITCH AND KICK ON 15 MILLION AMERICANS OFF ON 15 MILLION AMERICANS OFF THEIR HEALTH PLANS WHICH IS NOT THEIR HEALTH PLANS WHICH IS NOT DOABLE. DOABLE.>>Reporter: YOU AND I JUST HAD>>Reporter: YOU AND I JUST HAD A HEARTY CONVERSATION ON A HEARTY CONVERSATION ON CLIMATE. CLIMATE. IS THERE PEOPLE AROUND THE IS THERE PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLDCOM WORLDCOM WORLD COMING OUT IN SOME CASE TO WORLD COMING OUT IN SOME CASE TO MAKE THEIR LEADERS UNDERSTAND MAKE THEIR LEADERS UNDERSTAND THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE PRIORITY. THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE PRIORITY. WHERE ARE WE ON THIS TOPIC? WHERE ARE WE ON THIS TOPIC?>>WHERE WE ARE IS THE TIDE IS>>WHERE WE ARE IS THE TIDE IS TURNING. TURNING. THE QUESTION IS WILL IT HAPPEN THE QUESTION IS WILL IT HAPPEN FAST ENOUGH OR WHAT DO WE DO TO FAST ENOUGH OR WHAT DO WE DO TO MAKE GOOD ON IT? MAKE GOOD ON IT? THE WAY STUDENTS AROUND THE THE WAY STUDENTS AROUND THE WORLD ARE SPEAKING UP FOR THEIR WORLD ARE SPEAKING UP FOR THEIR FUTURE IS INSPIRING. FUTURE IS INSPIRING. THIS IS PERSONAL. THIS IS PERSONAL. THIS HAS MOVED OFF THE TEXTBOOK THIS HAS MOVED OFF THE TEXTBOOK PAGE IN OUR LIVES. PAGE IN OUR LIVES. IT HAS GONE TO AN IDEA TO A IT HAS GONE TO AN IDEA TO A THEORY, PREDICTION TO A REALITY THEORY, PREDICTION TO A REALITY AND AN EMERGENCY. AND AN EMERGENCY. THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER THE ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER WE’LL CONTINUE TO FAILING TO ACT WE’LL CONTINUE TO FAILING TO ACT TO MAKE THIS IS A DOMINATING TO MAKE THIS IS A DOMINATING PROBLEM FOR THE REST OF MY PROBLEM FOR THE REST OF MY LIFETIME. LIFETIME. WE CAN AND WILL COMPETE ON THE WE CAN AND WILL COMPETE ON THE TECHNICAL AND DEIMENSIONS.