IS GOING TO BE OUR LIVE GUEST AS WE CONTINUE TO LIVE FROM DETROI DETROIT.>>Laura: ROCK STAR PANEL TONIGHT, WE’VE GOT REINCE PRIEBUS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF. BYRON YORK, “WASHINGTON EXAMINER,” FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR. AND DENNIS KUCINICH, FORMER DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN AND FORMER 2008 CANDIDATE. HARVEY DILLON IS WITH US, TRUMP ADVISORY BOARD MEMBER. WHAT ARE PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES THINKING TONIGHT WATCHING WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS SECOND DEMOCRATIC DEBATE?>>AS I WAS WATCHING IT, I THOUGHT THEY WERE TO GO STATEMENTS TO MAKE THEIR PRESIDENT TRUMP VERY CLEARLY BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, DEMOCRATS ARE DEBATING THROWING OFF 200 MILLION PEOPLE OFF PRIVATE INSURANCE. THEY ARE TRASHING BARACK OBAMA, TALKING ABOUT MEDICARE FOR ALL, ANOTHER 32 TRILLION. THE SECOND WINNER IS JOE BIDEN BECAUSE ONE THING I LEARNED IN 2016 IS WHEN IT WAS ALL TRUMP ALL THE TIME COME ON THE MATTER GOOD, BAD, IN THE MIDDLE, TRUMP ALWAYS WON IN THAT BATTLE. ALL ABOUT JOE BIDEN, CONSTANTLY ATTACKING HIM, IT WAS ALL ABOUT BIDEN. PLUS 20 GOING INTO THE DEBATE. IF ANYTHING HE WAS HELPED BY THE DEBATE AND ULTIMATELY IT WAS A GOOD NIGHT FOR HIM AND A GREAT NIGHT FOR THE PRESIDENT.>>Laura: BYRON, WHAT STOOD OUT WHEN I WATCH THE THING IS MY GOODNESS, IF BARACK OBAMA SHOWED UP ON STAGE, HE WOULD BE ONE OF THE MORE CONSERVATIVE PEOPLE ON THAT STAGE. THEY WOULD HAVE TO ATTACK HIM STANDING RIGHT THERE. THIS WAS AMAZING TO SEE, THE PARTY OF DOOM AND GLOOM, PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE WAS DOOM AND GLOOM INSTEAD OF BIDEN WHO SAID, ELECT ME AND WE ARE GOING TO DO OBAMA 3.0.>>HE’S ALWAYS BEEN THE CANDIDATE OF RESTORATION. THERE ARE CANDIDATES OF TRANSFORMATION, HE’S THE CANDIDATE OF RESTORATION. WATCHING THIS, IF YOU ARE A DEMOCRAT AND YOU TRULY THINK THE HOUSE IS ON FIRE, WE ARE IN A BIG EMERGENCY BECAUSE OF DONALD TRUMP, THE DEBATE STARTED OUT WITH 40 MINUTES OF ARCANE DISCUSSION OF HEALTH CARE IN WHICH THEY DID DISCUSS WHETHER OR NOT TO TAKE AWAY PEOPLE’S PRIVATE INSURANCE, CAME TO NO PARTICULAR CONCLUSION, AND NOBODY GAVE THAT SENTENCE OF EMERGENCY THAT THE DEMOCRATIC BASE IS FEELING FOR THEY WEREN’T SEEING IT IN THEIR CANDIDATES.>>Laura: DENNIS KUCINICH, YOU ARGUED A LOT OF THESE ISSUES IN THE PAST THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE ON THE BIG DOGS IN YOUR PARTY IN ORDER TO BE A TRANSFORMATIONAL CANDIDATE. BUT TONIGHT, IT WAS IN AWE THE THING TO WATCH BECAUSE, AGAIN, BARACK OBAMA A TWO TERM PRESIDENT, EXTREMELY POPULAR. GLOBAL SUPERSTAR, BUT PRETTY MUCH ALL OF THEM WERE HITTING OBAMA WITHOUT NECESSARILY SAYING IT. OBAMACARE, TRADE DEALS, THEY DID IT LAST NIGHT TOO. BIDEN IS THERE SAYING IT, THAT WAS THE PARTY OF HOPE AND CHANGE.>>THERE IS A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE. FIRST OF ALL, WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SOME OF THE DEFICIENCIES OF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION CREATED THE OPENING OF DONALD TRUMP. AS FAR AS HEALTH CARE, THERE IS A REAL DIVIDE AMONG DEMOCRATS ON HEALTH CARE AND THERE HAS BEEN FOR DECADES. IN 2000, I WENT TO THE DEMOCRATIC PLATFORM’S COMMITTEE TO PRESENT MEDICARE FOR ALL AND IT WAS SHOT DOWN BY THE GORE CAMPAIGN. AND THE SUPPORT FOR MEDICARE OR FOR ALL IS GROWING. YOU WOULDN’T KNOW IT BY TONIGHT’S DEBATE, YOU WOULD KNOW IT FROM YESTERDAYS WITH BERNIE SANDERS.>>Laura: WE HAD THE LANING FOR JOHN DELANEY THE ONLY ONE WITH BUSINESS EXPERIENCE OTHER THAN ANDREW YANG. I RAN TWO HEALTH CARE COMPANIES — MEDICARE PAYS 80% FOR WHAT DOCTORS NEED TO COVER THEIR COSTS. MEDICARE FOR ALL WILL CRATER WHATEVER IT’S GOING TO CRATER, WHICH IS MEDICARE BUT WE’VE GOT KAMALA AND THEY ARE MIXING IT UP IN THE BEGINNING OVER THIS MEDICARE FOR ALL CONVERSATION. IT’S HARD TO FOLLOW FOR MOST PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW THE ISSUES FOR THIS IS HOW IT WENT DOWN.>>VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN’S CAMPAIGN CALLED YOUR PLAN “A HAVE IT EVERY WHICH WAY APPROACH” AND ITS “PART OF THE CONFUSING PATTER DOWN THE PATTERN OF EQUIVOCATING YOUR HEALTH CARE STANDS.”>>HE’S PROBABLY CONFUSE HE’S NOT LISTENING.>>YOU SHOULD GET SOMETHING GOOD IN TEN YEARS, YOU SHOULD WONDER WHY IT TAKES TEN YEARS BUT IT WILL REQUIRE MIDDLE-CLASS TAXES TO GO UP, NOT DOWN.>>THE COST OF DOING NOTHING IS FAR TOO EXPENSIVE.>>Laura: DID JOE BIDEN WIN THAT EXCHANGE?>>I THINK HE POINTED OUT THAT KAMALA HARRIS IS ALL OVER THE PLACE. HE COULD’VE POINTED OUT THAT BERNIE’S PLAN ELIMINATES PRIVATE HEALTH CARE ALTOGETHER. HE JUST CAME OUT AND SET IT AND OWNED IT. KAMALA HARRIS’ A PROBLEM AS I WROTE IN A “WALL STREET JOURNAL” OP-ED ISSUE FLIP-FLOPPED ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE. SHE WANTS TO HAVE IT EVERY SINGLE WAY. EVERY 30 MINUTES OF DISCUSSION AND HER HAVING FIVE TIMES THE AIRTIME OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES, SHE STILL WOULDN’T SAY HOW MUCH IT’S GOING TO COST AND WHAT IT REALLY ACCOMPLISHES BIT I DO THINK BIDEN DID A BETTER JOB IN THAT EXCHANGE THEN KAMALA HARRIS.>>I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE AND THAT SENATOR HARRIS HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE MAP. HER PROPOSAL ON THE SO-CALLED MEDICARE FOR ALL REALLY ISN’T. IT LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, BUT IT QUACKS LIKE AN INSURANCE COMPAN COMPANY.>>Laura: OKAY. BY WRITTEN, THE MOST UPSETTING BLOW TO HARRIS, AGAIN, WHO WAS BUILT UP MUCH LIKE BETO O’ROURKE WAS BUILT UP, BUTTIGIEG WAS BUILT UP, THAT IT WAS HARRIS, SHE’S BEEN BUILT UP FOR WEEKS AND WEEKS AND WEEKS, THIS WAS ANOTHER MOMENT FOR HER TO SHINE. THIS WAS THE MOST DEVASTATING BLOW TO HER. WATCH.>>SHE PUT OVER 1500 PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR MARIJUANA VIOLATIONS AND LAUGHED ABOUT IT WHEN SHE WAS ASKED IF SHE EVER SMOKED MARIJUANA. EVIDENCE THAT WOULD’VE FREED AN INNOCENT MAN FROM DEATH ROW UNTIL THE COURTS FORCE HER TO DO SO. SHE KEPT PEOPLE IN PRISON BEYOND THEIR SENTENCES TO USE HAVE THEM AS CHEAP LABOR IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED UNDER URANUS PROSECUTOR, YOU OWE THEM AN APOLOGY.>>Laura: SHE ANSWERED NO, THAT’S NOT TRUE, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHO IS GOING TO FACT-CHECK KAMALA HARRIS. THAT MIGHT WORK IN THE GENERAL FOR A KAMALA HARRIS. SHE’S TOUGH ON CRIME. IN THIS PRIMARY IN THIS TEMPERATURE, DOES THAT WORK?>>IT DOESN’T WORK. YOU CAN’T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS. ALSO, THESE CANDIDATES THAT ARE NOT KAMALA HARRIS AND NOT JOE BIDEN, THEY ARE PREPARING, PREPARING FOR THESE ATTACKS. TULSI GABBARD WENT THEY ARE READY TO ATTACK KAMALA HARRIS BECAUSE SHE’S IN THE SECOND POSITION. THESE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE ON THE ATTACK. HERE IS ONE THING THAT REMINDS ME OF 2016, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 2016 AND NOW. THE ONE THING DEMOCRATS ARE GETTING RIGHT THE REST OF THE FIELD IS THEY ARE ALL ATTACKING BIDEN. ALL TRYING TO TAKE HIM DOWN BUT IT’S NOT GOING TO WORK RIGHT NOW BUT THEY ARE ALL ATTACKING HIM. 2016, THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES DID NOT ATTACK DONALD TRUMP. THEY WERE AFRAID TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP. THEY ONLY ATTACKED EACH OTHER, NOT EACH OTHER OUT OF THE GAME AND TRUMP WAS STANDING THERE AND AFRAID TO GO AFTER HIM. THEY ARE NOT AFRAID TO GO AFTER JOE BIDEN. THEY KNOW THAT IF THEY DON’T KNOCK HIM DOWN A COUPLE OF NOTCHES WITHIN THE NEXT TWO MONTHS, THINGS WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT BIT I ALSO THINK THE DNC IS ON THE BRINK OF LOSING COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THIS PRIMARY.>>Laura: EXPLAIN THIS TO US. IMPORTANT POINT THAT EVERYBODY NEEDS TO LISTEN TO WHAT REINCE PRIEBUS TELMEX IS SAYING.>>ONCE THE FIELD STARTS TO NARROW, IT TAKES NOTHING — IF CNN WANTS TO DO A DEBATE EVERY SINGLE NIGHT WITH SEVEN OF THESE CANDIDATES, THEY CAN GET THREE TIMES A VIEWERSHIP. IF YOU ARE 1% IN IOWA, WE ARE ALL 1% IN IOWA, LARA IS AT 30%.>>Laura: EXACTLY.>>WHY WOULD WE NOT HAVE A DEBATE EVERY NIGHT ON CNN, THE THREE OF US, TO CATCH UP? THE REASON THE DNC NEEDS TO GET CONTROL IS THESE 19, 18, 15 CANDIDATES ARE GOING TO GO ON THEIR OWN, GO ROGUE, AND THIS IS ABOUT TO BREAK LOOSE. I THINK YOU ARE SEEING THIS START.>>Laura: BYRON, INTERESTING. I LIKE THE INJURY, PALACE INTRIGUE AT THE DNC.>>THIS IS THE LAST TIME YOU’LL SEE MOST OF THESE CANDIDATES ON STAGE IN THE DEBATE. THE RULES CHANGE THE NEXT TIME. YOU HAVE TO HAVE TO QUALIFY FOR THE DEBATE AT LEAST 2% IN THE POLLS, EITHER NATIONALLY OR IN THE NUMBER OF STAPLES. RIGHT NOW, SIX OR SEVEN MEMBERS — B1 LET’S GET SOME TELMEX BE ONE WHO WOULD YOU THINK ARE NOT GOING TO MAKE IT?>>THE ONES WHO STAY IN ARE THE TOP FOUR, BERNIE, BIDEN, HARRIS. WARREN, BOOKER MAY BE, BUTTIGIEG. THAT’S ABOUT IT. THE REST OF THEM ARE GOING AWAY.>>Laura: YOUR POINT IS THAT THEY CAN STILL POP UP ON CNN.>>WHAT’S TO STOP TEN OF THESE CANDIDATES IF THEY GET KNOCKED OUT? WHAT’S TO STOP THOSE TEN FROM DOING A DEBATE ON CNN?>>THEY HAVE NOT TIED TO DEBATE CALENDAR TO THE NOMINATION PROCESS.>>Laura: I GET WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.>>THEY HAVE NOT TIED IT TO THE RULE OF THE NOMINATION. IT’S A FREE-FOR-ALL.>>Laura: DENNIS KUCINICH, YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE THE SHOW BEGAN. I KEEP THINKING ABOUT THE GUYS — THEY COULD BE GUYS OR GALS, WHO ARE MASTER CAMPAIGNERS. BARACK OBAMA, BILL CLINTON, DONALD TRUMP, GEORGE W. BUSH. THAT’S NOT BECAUSE THEY WON, BUT THEY WERE PHENOMENAL RETAIL POLITICIANS. WHO ON THAT STAGE TONIGHT, OTHER THAN BIDEN, HAS THAT KIND OF COMMON TOUCH? CAN BE A LITTLE SELF-DEPRECATING. CAN THE SLUR HIS WORDS EVERY NOW AND THEN. I DO NOT THINK ANYONE CARES ABOUT THAT. WHO COMES CLOSE TO A RETAIL POLITICIAN WITH SOME PIZZAZZ? I DIDN’T SEE IT. I TRY TO LOOK AT IT AS AN ANALYST. I DID NOT SEE THAT KIND OF OBAMA/TRUMP GO GET IT. I DIDN’T SEE IT.>>IT’S STILL EARLY.>>Laura: MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, MAY BE.>>IT STILL EARLY IN THE CAMPAIGN. AND YOU CAN’T SPEAK ELECTED TO SOME OF THE OFFICE THESE PEOPLE HOLD WITHOUT HAVING SOME SKILL AT RETAIL. I WOULD NOT WRITE ANYBODY OFF RIGHT NOW. ALTHOUGH IT’S TRUE A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE CAN DETERMINE IF SOMEONE’S GOING TO BE VISIBLE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THERE IS STILL A LOT OF MOVEMENT. AGAIN, TONIGHT — YOU PICKED IT UP. TULSI GABBARD, FOR EXAMPLE. THAT EXCHANGE SHE HAD WITH — B1 IT SHOWS HER VULNERABILITY. KAMALA HARRIS’ VULNERABILITY. IF YOU CAN’T ANSWER TULSI GABBARD — I LIKE TULSI GABBARD. YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GO TOE-TO-TOE WITH TRUMP?>>A PROSECUTOR IS GOOD ON OFFENSE AND SHE’S GOOD ON OFFENSE. BUT SENATOR HARRIS DIDN’T DO WELL ON DEFENSE.>>Laura: DEMOCRATS HAVE A NEW PHRASE. WE CAN’T ANSWER OR DON’T WANT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. WATCH.>>STOPPED USING REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS IN ORDER TO TALK WITH EACH OTHER ABOUT HOW TO BEST PROVIDE HEALTH CARE.>>YOUR QUESTION IS A REPUBLICAN TALKING POINT!>>WE CANNOT KEEP WITH REPUBLICAN TALKING POINTS ON THIS. YOU’VE GOT TO STOP.>>OPEN BORDERS IS A RIGHT WING TALKING POINT.>>Laura: THAT’S A CUTE TRICK, ISN’T IT?>>IT’S LAME WHEN YOU HEAR IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. WHAT THEY DO NOT LIKE IS THE REPUBLICAN REALITY OUTSIDE THAT ROOM. THE REALITY THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN THE BEST PRESIDENT EVER FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM, WHICH IS SOMETHING, AFRICAN-AMERICAN JOBS, RISING TIDE FOR ALL AMERICANS, FOR EVERYTHING IN OUR ECONOMY. THEY DO NOT LIKE THOSE FACTS. THEY ARE PAINTING AND CONJURING A PICTURE OF THIS DYSTOPIAN AMERICA WHERE THE SEAS ARE RISING, WE ARE SHIVERING IN THE HUDDLES AND CAGES IN THE STREETS. I DO NOT THINK IT’S WORKING. IT’S VERY FAKE. LAURA, YOU ARE POINTING TO THIS. MOST OF THESE CANDIDATES ARE TOTALLY FAKE. KIRSTEN GILLIBRAND, THANKS FOR PLAYING. GO INTO OHIO AND EXPLAIN WHITENESS TO WHITE WOMEN? WHAT IS THAT? IT’S CRAZY. I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT, BIDEN IS THE ONLY ONE AUTHENTIC BUT HE’S GOT HIS OWN PROBLEMS. I ACTUALLY THINK HE IMPROVED FROM THE LAST DEBATE.>>Laura: THIS IS A NIGHTMARE FOR HARRIS TONIGHT. WE HAVEN’T EVEN GOTTEN TO THE TRADE STUFF, WHAT HAPPENED ON IMMIGRATION. CASTRO EMBARRASSED HIMSELF ON IMMIGRATION. TO THAT POINT HOW BIDEN POSITIONS HIMSELF, I THINK HE ROSE ABOVE ALL OF THIS. HE WAS UP THERE DEFENDING OBAMACARE. ALL THE REST OF THE PEOPLE ARE TRASHING OBAMACARE.>>NOT A GREAT PLACE TO BE EITHER WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.>>Laura: IT’S FAIRLY POPULAR.>>IT’S BETTER THAN GREEN NEW DEAL AND MEDICARE FOR ALL. HERE’S THE ISSUE YOU HIT ON. THE PROBLEM DEMOCRATS HAVE, ALL THESE POSITIONS COME IN GREEN NEW DEAL, MEDICARE FOR ALL, REPARATIONS, JOB SECURITY, MANDATORY PAID VACATION, HOW DOES THAT PLAY OUT IN PITTSBURGH, MILWAUKEE, COLUMBUS, CLEVELAND, WHAT DO THOSE PEOPLE THINK OF THOSE POSITIONS? IT DOESN’T WORK. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK CORY BOOKER SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE PARIS CLAIMANT ACCORDS BEING CHILD’S PLAY.>>Laura: A NO-BRAINER.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID IT WELL WHEN HE SAID WE ARE ABOUT PITTSBURGH, NOT PARIS. TRUMP WINS THAT ARGUMENT EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY CAN HAVE THEIR DEBATE AS BYRON OPENED UP. THEY CAN HAVE THIS ESOTERIC DEBATE. BUT IN THE END, IT’S THE POSITIONS OF THIS PRESIDENT THAT IS GOING TO HELP THEM WIN IN THE MIDWEST AND THESE POSITIONS ARE GOING TO KILL THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,A>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,D>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,A>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,L>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,T>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,O>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,F>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,M>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,N>>Laura: SPEW ENVIRON,Y WE ARE TALKING ABOUT>>Laura: TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS, ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME IN WHEN YOU BOIL IT ALL DAY DOWN, UNLESS YOU’RE A MURDERER, BUT IF YOU SHOW UP YOU ARE GOING TO STAY. WE WILL DIE IN 12 YEARS. CLIMATE CHANGE, RISING SEAS, FLINT, MICHIGAN, SEGREGATION IN THE ’70s, RELITIGATING BUSING. THIS SEEMS LIKE A TOTAL DISCONNECT WHAT YOU WILL, DENNIS KUCINICH, TALKING ABOUT YOUR WHOLE LIFE. RENTS PREVIOUS FROM THE MIDWEST, THE RUST BELT IS WHERE THIS ELECTION WILL BE WON OR LOST IN MY VIEW.>>LAST NIGHT WAS A MORE PROGRESSIVE CROWD IN IMMIGRATION FOR THE LAST DEBATE THEY ALL RAISED THEIR HANDS AND SAID THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDER D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDEC D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDEO D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDES D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDEN D DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL BORDE. LAST DON’T LIKE TONIGHT YOU HAD JOE BIDEN SAYING THAT IT’S ILLEGAL TO CROSS THE BORDER ILLEGALLY. HE IS NOT IN THE MAJORITY. ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO BE ON THE RECORD SO THEY ALL CAME OUT AND SAY WE ARE IN FAVOR OF EFFECTIVE OPEN BORDERS. THEY CAN TRY TO CHANGE THAT WHEN THE GENERAL ELECTION COMES AROUND THAT WE’VE ALREADY SEEN IT.>>Laura: LATER ON, WE’LL TALK ABOUT HOW DE BLASIO THREE TIMES TRIED TO TAKE OUT JOE BIDEN ON THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION. HE WENT THREE TIMES TO BITE AT THE APPLE OF DEPORTATION WHICH AGAIN, DENNIS, I KNOW YOU ARE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN SOME OF THESE MIDWEST CENTRIST DEMOCRATS, BUT YOU STILL HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER THAT ELECTORAL MATH. HOW DO YOU PUT THE ELECTORAL MATH TOGETHER WHEN IT’S BASICALLY OPEN BORDERS, AND LESS SPENDING, GUARANTEED INCOMES, REPARATIONS, GREEN NEW DEAL, MEDICARE FOR ALL.>>Laura: I WOULD PRESENTED IN A DIFFERENT PACKAGE BUT I WOULD SAY MEDICARE FOR ALL MANDATORY. I THINK THEY CAN WIN ON THAT. I ALSO THINK YOU CAN WIN ON JOBS AND WAGES.>>Laura: 99% OF AMERICA HAS SEEN A WAGE INCREASE. “THE WALL STREET JOURNAL” PIECE TODAY WAS DEVASTATING ON THAT. 99% OF AMERICANS HAVE SEEN THEIR WAGES BASICALLY GO UP. BIG SCREAMING HEADLINE IN THE JOURNAL TODAY.>>THE QUESTION IS BY WHAT DEGREE.>>Laura: MORE THAN UNDER OBAMA.>>LOOK, I’M NOT ARGUING ABOUT THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HERE VERSUS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. I AM SPEAKING IN A RELATIVE SENSE WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS HOPE FOR PARTICULARLY WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE IN OHIO WHO HAVE BEEN SHUT OUT OF A LOT OF THE GAINS IN THE ECONOMY.>>Laura: DOES ANYBODY ON THAT STAGE REALLY THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB AT CREATING JOBS THAN DONALD TRUMP OR THEY ARE GOING TO DO A BETTER JOB AT HEALTH CARE REFORM THAN BARACK OBAMA?>>I DON’T SEE IT –>>WHERE IT IS IS REBUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE.>>Laura: THE DEMOCRATS DON’T WANT TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTUR INFRASTRUCTURE.>>LAURA, HUGE MISTAKE.>>Laura: CASTOR ARGUING THIS IS NOT A GOOD ECONOMY TONIGHT.>>THAT’S RIDICULOUS FOR THEY WOULD HAVE NOTHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT. THEY WOULD HAVE TO DEMONIZE THE PRESIDENT, WHICH IS GETTING VERY TIRED. NOT TALKING ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR AMERICANS, THEY HAVE A COMPLETELY ALTERED VIEW OF REALITY. OTHER COUNTRIES CAN COME IN AND STAY HERE BUT THE TAXPAYERS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR IT. WITH WHAT MONEY? THEY REALLY FAIL AT THAT, AND WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP GETTING UP AGAINST ANY OF THESE, THEY CAN’T WAIT TO SEE IT. AND NOT GOING TO SEE IT AS MANY OF THE OTHER GUEST HAVE POINTED OUT TONIGHT, MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO TAKE THE CONSOLATION PRIZE AND GO FOR THE MOST PART. BUT I DO NOT SEE HOW MANY OF THEM ARE GOING TO DO BETTER THAN TRUMP ON A LOT OF THE ISSUES THEY TALKED ABOUT. BIDEN, THE LEADING CANDIDATE, HE TOOK SOME HITS FOR THE FACT THAT HIS ADMINISTRATION HAD DEPORTED MANY.>>Laura: I DO WANT TO GET BACK TO WHAT I MENTIONED, HITTING BIDEN, OTHER 2020 DEMS ALSO PILED ON THE PRESIDENT, OBAMA’S LEGACY.>>THE ISSUE CAME UP WITH ALL THOSE DEPORTATIONS, YOU ARE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, I DIDN’T HEAR WHETHER YOU’D STOP THEM OR NOT USING YOUR POWER, INFLUENCE IN THE WHITE HOUSE.>>THE PRESIDENT CAME ALONG AND SAID HE’S THE GUY WHO CAME UP WITH A DREAMER DREAMERS. COMPARING HIM TO DONALD TRUMP I THINK IS ABSOLUTELY BIZARRE.>>I DO NOT HEAR AN ANSWER FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT.>>HE MOVED TO FIGHT MENTALLY CHANGE THE SYSTEM.>>MR. VICE PRESIDENT, YOU CAN HAVE CANNOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS BUT YOU CAN’T DODGE IT WHEN IT’S NOT.>>Laura: PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD A LOT OF DEPORTATION SO THE CONCLUSION IS THAT OBAMA WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE FOR THIS DEMOCRATIC PARTY.>>IT’S A TOUGH SELL IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY AND THAT’S WHY BIDEN IS 20 POINTS UP. BIDEN HAS TO BE CAREFUL HERE. THE PARTY, ME AND OTHERS — IT’S EASY FOR US TO DISMISS THIS ENTIRE FIELD AS COMPLETELY WACKO, BUT THE ONE GUY THAT IS NOT NECESSARILY IN THAT CATEGORY IS PLUS 20 OVER THE REST. SO I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT FOR THE PARTY TO FOCUS IN ON JOE BIDEN, TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE’S FOR THE GREEN NEW DEAL. HE CAME OUT IN FAVOR OF IT. 93 TRILLION — I THINK IT’S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON’T LOSE SIGHT OF THAT. I THINK THAT BARACK OBAMA IS FAR TOO POPULAR STILL WITHIN DEMOCRAT BAYS. IT’S MUCH DIFFERENT THAN BUSH IN ’08 AND 2010 WHEN YOU HAD CRUZ AND MIKE LEE END.>>Laura: 65% OF DEMOCRATS WANT TO CONTINUE OBAMA’S LEGACY.>>I DO NOT THINK BIDEN LAID TO REST CONCERNS ABOUT HIS AGE, ABOUT HIS SHARPNESS. THERE WAS ENOUGH HALTING THIS IN HIS PERFORMANCE. DIFFICULTIES IN FORMULATING IDEAS. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS GOING AWAY AND THE AGENT IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM FROM NOW ON FOR HIM BE A PROBLEM FROM NOW ON FOR HI.>>I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE WITH BYRON TO THE EXTENT THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO INTERRUPT HIMSELF A FEW TIMES. HE BROKE THE FLOW OF HIS OWN PRESENTATION WHICH DIDN’T HELP THEM. I ALSO THINK THAT CORY BOOKER DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB IN PUTTING THE VICE PRESIDENT TO THE TEST.>>Laura: WAS CORY BOOKER NOT CATCHING ON WHY IS CORY BOOKER NOT CATCHING ON? HE’S ARTICULATE, WE WERE ARGUING NEWARK POLICE POLICY. WE WERE ARGUING NYPD, WE ARE ARGUING NEW WORK, THEN WE ARE ARGUING — IT SEEMS LIKE, NOT SAYING IT’S NOT IMPORTANT, BUT FOR A DEMOCRAT PRIMARY, IT SEEMED TO REALLY GRANULAR. I THINK MOST OF IT WENT OVER PEOPLE’S HEADS.>>EVEN IF YOU DO NOT GET IT TO THE GRANULAR ASPECTS OF IT, BIDEN HAD GOOD POINTS HOW HE LIED AND THE ACLU ACCUSED BOOKER AND ET CETERA. COMES ACROSS, IF YOU TURN THE VOLUME AND LOOK AT THE BODY LANGUAGE, COMES ACROSS AS VERY SHRILL, HYPER, IN-YOUR-FACE, WE SAW THAT IN THE KAVANAUGH HEARINGS, SEE THAT IN ALL OF HIS PERFORMANCES OVERALL. IT’S UP AT 11, THIS IS SPINAL TAP, THIS ONE NOTE AND IT’S TOO MUCH. PEOPLE DON’T WANT THAT. I THINK THEY WANT A BIDEN THAT’S FUNCTIONING FOR THAT’S WHAT IS THE PROBLEM. BIDEN HALTING, THE KIND OF MINI